hi and welcome to the Raising Men Podcast

and you can't be a successful father and a victim

that's right

I'm not sure that you could be a successful person

and a victim whether you

whether you meant to do it that way or not

I think it's tremendously powerful

I think you're giving me way too much credit Shawn

the power to make your way in the world

now that you're part of the community

does that ring true yeah absolutely

like I said there's many ways to initiate

it can happen consciously or unconsciously

what does being a mindful parent mean to you

well it's

I think a lot of patience

absolutely it's helped them recognize the impact it has

because that can have a more profound shift

on the way they show up yeah

and going back to your your yes

and theme we actually

I think we want to do both things exactly

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